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Seishi Maru The Black Dawn Gang	Posted - 2009.09.14 13:44:00 - [1] In fact CCp is doing to the machariel what community was asking for the tempest. If tempest could get the same mass reduction then it would be at least something we could hug and dream. If projectiles get some love machariel will be a good ship. In fact will be a very powerful 1v1 ship.....
Seishi Maru The Black Dawn Gang	Posted - 2009.09.19 20:55:00 - [2] Originally by: Xellss Edited by: Xellss on 18/09/2009 18:05:48 Please CCp explain why did the tracking bonus on the macherial get replaced with a redundant fall off bonus. This bonus is to put it bluntly F**king useless in pvp, Maelstrum is living proof of that. The tracking bonus is what made the macherial for pvp. The abiltiy to fit large autos and have similar tracking to electron blaster cannons. If she's not going to retain the tracking bonus, explain to me this what exactly makes her different from a fleet issue tempest, because an extra 5km in fall off does not cut it for me in pvp and for pve, well thats what the vargur is best at :) aff why in hell so many peopple have NOT CLUE on how to fight with a speed ship? You use speed to control RANGE. so RANGE advantage means everything... notice how vagabond has a flloff bonus not a stupid trackign bonus like the munin? Now check wich ones is the speed boat of the 2....
Seishi Maru The Black Dawn Gang	Posted - 2009.09.20 11:02:00 - [3] Originally by: Earl Scarelet Edited by: Earl Scarelet on 20/09/2009 06:50:24 Edited by: Earl Scarelet on 20/09/2009 06:45:43 Edited by: Earl Scarelet on 20/09/2009 06:39:56 Originally by: Seishi Maru Originally by: Xellss Edited by: Xellss on 18/09/2009 18:05:48 Please CCp explain why did the tracking bonus on the macherial get replaced with a redundant fall off bonus. This bonus is to put it bluntly Fking useless in pvp, Maelstrum is living proof of that. The tracking bonus is what made the macherial for pvp. The abiltiy to fit large autos and have similar tracking to electron blaster cannons. If she's not going to retain the tracking bonus, explain to me this what exactly makes her different from a fleet issue tempest, because an extra 5km in fall off does not cut it for me in pvp and for pve, well thats what the vargur is best at :) aff why in hell so many peopple have NOT CLUE on how to fight with a speed ship? You use speed to control RANGE. so RANGE advantage means everything... notice how vagabond has a flloff bonus not a stupid trackign bonus like the munin? Now check wich ones is the speed boat of the 2.... Well the fact is this speedy ship is a BS not a Vaga.. Vagas can do 4k/s to overrun most targets and kill inties with the tracking of medium AC then get away in one piece.. If you didn't make it and his buddies in T1 plated Cruisers jumped on you and started orbiting... At least you're still able to bite back with the tracking till you fall... When it become a Machariel.. inties come, get you scramed ,mwd's off , you got jumped by T1 Cruisers. and without the tracking bonus you found your guns firing so hard but hitting **... Always remember no one wanna one on one against a shinny ship that might be holy pimped, You are always being set uped thus you are not keeping your range and so the fall off bonus becomes a joke. And finaly.. the concept Speedy BS it self become a joke especially when it's a faction one costing over a bil... unless it's either remarkablely speedy that can really do something against fast tackles or it is bit more speedy than others(faction BS) but still can tank'gank pretty well(Which is no point to make against pure gank one). Well if you make a speed chart you will notice this fat BS is faster than anything bulkier than a vagabond. And you still have 1 high slot to use a deadspace neutralzier (or you will use a t2 one in a 1.6Bil isk ship?). This alone makes anythign that can tackle you... you can neutralize. That alone makes that most hacs etc will try to keep range from a BS (or do you usually see HAcs throwing themselves at web range from a tempest..? .. one of the stupidiest things a Hac could do.... being able to reach the targets that are at 20-25 km is a BLESS! If for any reason you need MORE tracking.. fit dual 425mm and a target painter... No one going to use ANY of the faction BS in large groups. They will always be used by small groups to fight small very small groups. Even on the scale of 2v2 3v3 On these scenarios thew new Mach is excelent and the falloff bonus is amazing.
Seishi Maru The Black Dawn Gang	Posted - 2009.09.25 15:14:00 - [4] Originally by: Wet Ferret Oh my. New Guristas ships are just what I've always wanted. Though I must say I am bit disappointed that we still aren't getting any sweet EOM laser shield tankers, I suppose I'll get over it . Now to start training up those heavy drone skills... aaa err EOM use RAILS not lasers.. adn they ARMOR tank not shield :P
Seishi Maru The Black Dawn Gang	Posted - 2009.10.10 14:41:00 - [5] Originally by: Marlona Sky After more testing with the Vindicator it seems that if you don't fit at least one neut, even with 5x ogres, you will find it very difficult to break most tanks. We should have more options to pvp other than a default neut on a blaster boat, much less a vindicator. Even with 3x mag stabs, 5x ogres and 8x neutron blasters, the vindicator was simply not enough to break a maelstrom tank, as an example. What is the point of 8 turrets if you HAVE to fit a neut to break tanks? Boost the damage bonus on the Vindicator from 25% to 35-40% Fitting a neut should not be REQUIRED on all blaster boats to be a successful ship. You might as well fly normal mega and not have the benifit of the web bonus (which is not that big of deal tbh) and save a bill in isk. Is CCP afraid to make the Vindicator good or something? You realize how stupid your setences are? I coudl rephrase as.. what is the point on beign the most powerful subcapital tanker in eve ifyou cannot tank a single gank Battleship? See what I did? A maesltrom with crystal set and blue pill SHOULD be able to tank ANY single subcapital ship until its capacitor wears out.

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